World Cup Discussion

What does that achieve if you can name overrated shite from England better than you can name overrated shite from Spain? (which isn't really overrated)

Carlos Cuellar was from the lower end of La Liga and has done very well in the Premieship, look at him he is far superior to Gary Cahill at Bolton, yet that dud is quoted in the £15m mark yet Rangers got Cuellar for £2.5m

Just stick it to the dream La Liga or EPL it makes it easier. Edie swap Higauin for Forlan. The guy is a machine

Rooney and Ashley Cole are the only two players who would stay in the England team if they could choose anyone from any other country!

The-Gaffer™ wrote:

Discopants wrote:

JacMan wrote:

right lets sort the players debate out: this probably wont work or happen but everyone make their own dream spanish 11 if you think la liga is better and make your own epl 11 if you think england is better, then make your own epl 11

Or, do the same using only bottom 10 teams.

Plus jack himself has said he knows more about the Premiership than La Liga because its promoted in front of his eyes week in week out

I wouldn't mind that much but when league 2 ( no disrespect ) is getting more coverage on SSN than La Liga something is wrong

La Liga XI

.......................Casillas
Ramos....Puyol............Pique......Abidal
........................Alonso
............Iniesta............Xavi
Ronaldo......................................Messi
........................Higuain

But then your have: Dani Alves, Pepe, Valdes, Busquets, Gago, Ibrahiovic, Pedro, Van Der Vaart etc


Premier League XI:

..............................Reina
Sagna............Terry.........Vidic.........A.Cole
.............................Essien
.........Arshavin.......................Gerrard
............................Lampard
..............Rooney..................Torres

Cech, Ferdinand, Mascherano, Barry, Given, Joe Cole, Nasri, Drogba, Malouda etc

You can't blame them though, they whore there game out which is fine by me, the only thing is they believe most of the pish the media spout about it and this is despite Disco telling us the media only decieve the fans

When donkey players like Carlton Cole are quoted in the £20m bracket then a reality check is needed

Ha good shit RAW is about to start, didn't realise it was so late 8)

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-wwe-raw.html

The-Gaffer™ wrote:

You can't blame them though, they whore there game out which is fine by me, the only thing is they believe most of the pish the media spout about it and this is despite Disco telling us the media only decieve the fans

When donkey players like Carlton Cole are quoted in the £20m bracket then a reality check is needed

The way SSN behave though it's as though they think more swindon fans watch SSN than Barca,rangers or celtic fans for example. henc why we are at the back of the queue

The-Gaffer™ wrote:

Rooney and Ashley Cole are the only two players who would stay in the England team if they could choose anyone from any other country!

correct, and i'd still play hart you know, even though he cant get in over green and a pensioner in shit england team lol. I also feel the need to remind everyone we did not qualify for euro08 ffs, russia and croatia are our equals these days, not holland, germany, portugal, argentina and france and youre joking if you thought italy brazil and spain were. And look thats 8 teams above us, so whats that? Quarters at best, anything better a bonus, just like what? The last 15 years of tournaments. But please no long balls

I'm liking the money argument for being pro-spain...

I seem to recall Madrid splashing out 120m on Ronaldo and 80m on Kaka. Plus the likes of Barca can pay loads (forgot the exact sum) plus Eto'o for Ibrahimovic.

Plus look at Arsenal who can give the title a go, a very (relatively) cheap team.

All leagues have their time, I agree the prem probably wont be the best for much longer cos more money has landed in Spain, but for the minute it still is top as far as I'm concerned. Italy was the best during the 90's and they've fallen from grace a fair bit.

And don't say my opinion is simply because of the media, just cos you don't agree with me doesn't mean I've automatically become brainwashed.

2 leagues incomparable. All the top teams in spain have to play the shit of spain. All top english teams have to play the shit of england, just happens to be differant types of shit that top teams beat to become top teams. Only good leagues are scottish prem, league 2, possibley german too

Discopants wrote:

And don't say my opinion is simply because of the media, just cos you don't agree with me doesn't mean I've automatically become brainwashed.

It was you who said it pages and pages back

The media only decieve the public, and they have done a sterling job

They feed you "its the best in the World" enough times until you end up believing it

Thats why the best players don't play in t

Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldo, Kaka

No one in the Premiership can touch them

Thought as much, I disagree with you and it's obviously the workings of the evil media

to be fair about Messi, Xavi and Iniesta though all born and bred Barca players so why would they want to leave?

Its the equivilent of Gerrard in a way, came through Liverpool and hasnt wanted to leave

Discopants wrote:

Thought as much, I disagree with you and it's obviously the workings of the evil media

Wait a minute, it was you who blamed the media for 'deceiving' people

Or is it only a deception when it supports your argument to say so?

its also got you too though gaffer. If you say its stupid for carlton cole to be linked to a big move well i'm pretty sure that happens in spain too. Some shite has a good year, people want him with interest comes boosted price. Barcelona bought chygrinsky for a massive price but he has only had a couple of seasons in the ukraine, he may be the next puyol. But he may flop, but cos we dont have it told to us every day, you dont think of spain as having stupidly over priced bums, i cant even think of any cos i dont have that knowledge, but you are falling foul to the same thing you accuse disco of

hodge13 wrote:

to be fair about Messi, Xavi and Iniesta though all born and bred Barca players so why would they want to leave?

Its the equivilent of Gerrard in a way, came through Liverpool and hasnt wanted to leave

He did want to leave and he shat himself after the good people of Liverpool threatened his family and showed him and his car with spit

Classy stuff

Exactly, and Kaka and Ronaldo are hardly likely to reject that money.

But shit, no, it's the greedy prem that does that

The-Gaffer™ wrote:

hodge13 wrote:

to be fair about Messi, Xavi and Iniesta though all born and bred Barca players so why would they want to leave?

Its the equivilent of Gerrard in a way, came through Liverpool and hasnt wanted to leave

He did want to leave and he shat himself after the good people of Liverpool threatened his family and showed him and his car with spit

Classy stuff

Get that from the media perhaps?

The-Gaffer™ wrote:

hodge13 wrote:

to be fair about Messi, Xavi and Iniesta though all born and bred Barca players so why would they want to leave?

Its the equivilent of Gerrard in a way, came through Liverpool and hasnt wanted to leave

He did want to leave and he shat himself after the good people of Liverpool threatened his family and showed him and his car with spit

Classy stuff

gerrard will be offski this summer anyway me thinks

The-Gaffer™ wrote:

Discopants wrote:

Thought as much, I disagree with you and it's obviously the workings of the evil media

Wait a minute, it was you who blamed the media for 'deceiving' people

Or is it only a deception when it supports your argument to say so?

My point about the media was they build up England too much, which they do, and I don't believe it.

But now I do believe it cos it suits what your saying

Sexton Hardcastle wrote:

its also got you too though gaffer. If you say its stupid for carlton cole to be linked to a big move well i'm pretty sure that happens in spain too. Some shite has a good year, people want him with interest comes boosted price. Barcelona bought chygrinsky for a massive price but he has only had a couple of seasons in the ukraine, he may be the next puyol. But he may flop, but cos we dont have it told to us every day, you dont think of spain as having stupidly over priced bums, i cant even think of any cos i dont have that knowledge, but you are falling foul to the same thing you accuse disco of

I'm not denying some clubs pay over the odds but I don't think its wrong to say the Premiership has he most over inflated prices for the most average players in Europe

Bobby Zamora will be quoted around £10m mark this summer for sure!

JacMan wrote:

The-Gaffer™ wrote:

hodge13 wrote:

to be fair about Messi, Xavi and Iniesta though all born and bred Barca players so why would they want to leave?

Its the equivilent of Gerrard in a way, came through Liverpool and hasnt wanted to leave

He did want to leave and he shat himself after the good people of Liverpool threatened his family and showed him and his car with spit

Classy stuff

gerrard will be offski this summer anyway me thinks

Yeh after 12 years

for a massive price which he does not warrant. Oh gaffer lol

Discopants wrote:

The-Gaffer™ wrote:

Discopants wrote:

Thought as much, I disagree with you and it's obviously the workings of the evil media

Wait a minute, it was you who blamed the media for 'deceiving' people

Or is it only a deception when it supports your argument to say so?

My point about the media was they build up England too much, which they do, and I don't believe it.

But now I do believe it cos it suits what your saying

So the media are only decieiving the people when they build England up but are actually the bearers of the truth when they talk up the Premiership?

Can't have it both ways now, or can you?