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TNA has released Lance Rock/Hoyt.

- At tonight's TNA iMPACT! tapings, Petey Williams lost a "Loser Leaves Town Match," and that will be his last match with the company as he is being released from his contract.

- More releases are expected.

This seems to be genuine, I like both of these guys, I thought Lance Hoyt in 'Rock n Rave' looked pretty decent and Petey Williams is one of the most entertaining guys on the roster, WWE should be on the case immedietly with both of these guys, particularly ECW and it would further strengthen the show


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Hoyt I can see in WWE, he's the kind of guy Vince likes.

Petey, I hope he doesn't go to the E, simply because I can't see him using the Canadian Destroyer there.

Also, how much would Petey's physique change if he did? cough *Wellness* cough...
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Can see what your saying, I just think they could use Petey big time, mainly because they could change his image, dye his hair back to its natural colour and shave off his goatee and many wouldn't recognise him, I held the belief he is one of the best workers in TNA, they let Murdoch use the Canadian Destroyer so I don't see a problem with Petey
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Murdoch was homegrown - Petey, although he's not the biggest star in TNA, I can't see Vince letting him use something that will get him over with the WWE fans, and shit all over the finishers that WWE wrestlers use.
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Possibly, however if it draws then who knows, I think Petey is the type of 'competition' Vincce likes, clearly talented but severely misused in TNA
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Petey but teamed up with the guy in fcw that used to be called gabriel

look fairly similar build could be a good way to debut a new TNA guy.

have them as part of a team one from fcw one from rival brand and no one will really think of him as that TNA guy, especially if they use the classic, were brothers shite which is actually brilliant way for teams to get over.
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Never been overly a fan of Hoyt so not overly fussed where he ends up. Williams release shows once again why TNA balls’d up their entire Frontline/MEM storyline. Petey should have been one of the main guys used in this but got stuck in a crappy feud with Steiner, while the old guard of Rhyno, Jarrett, Foley and the Dudleys became the guys they suddenly tried to push?
ECW would be a great place for him and a match involving him and Bourne whets my appetite already. Alternatively ROH would be a great shout for his talents.
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I'm of the same opinion Maccs, when this MEM thing kicked off, Williams, Lethal Roode Kaz and Daniels should have been used to their maximum potential and the programme would really have been worthwhile, however its proving that the angle is just to keep the old boys in the main event, its proving to be more of a worked shoot than an angle. those oldies are really just keeping their spot
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I'm of the same opinion Maccs, when this MEM thing kicked off, Williams, Lethal Roode Kaz and Daniels should have been used to their maximum potential and the programme would really have been worthwhile, however its proving that the angle is just to keep the old boys in the main event, its proving to be more of a worked shoot than an angle. those oldies are really just keeping their spot


tna's downfall, trying to mimmick a flawed product. they pick the things people are bored of in wwe and copy them while wwe begins to push new talent haha
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If either of these come to the WWE I will be massivly surprised jsut cannot see at all, alhough I hope I am wrong Petey is good, very good.
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If either of these come to the WWE I will be massivly surprised jsut cannot see at all, alhough I hope I am wrong Petey is good, very good.


surely at some point this will go through vinces head "mark henry and tony atlas, or petey williams"
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What the fuck? They released Petey? What the hell are TNA thinking, he's one of the most talented guys not just in the X-Division, but on the entire roster. I think he'll most likely end up in ROH. Hoyt I couldn't really give 2 shits about, an average big man, nothing more.
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peteys a big talent gone i think they could have done something for him he was one the most talented superstar on the roster
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Apparently there is more lined up for the chop in TNA and they said another 'established name' could be going as well, its madness, rumour is they are trying to free up cash to sign new talent (old WWE guys)

One can only hope Chris Daniels gets released, would love to see him in the WWE at least that way we might actually see him
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Well if the likes of Daniels and other great wrestlers like him end up getting the chop, then I guess I may end up watching ROH only. I don't understand TNA's thinking sometimes
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I was thinking that too, freeing up space & money for ex-wwe guys
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There are no decent ones out there though?

Cade and Murdoch? Laughing
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Well if the likes of Daniels and other great wrestlers like him end up getting the chop, then I guess I may end up watching ROH only. I don't understand TNA's thinking sometimes

Daniels is only my opinion though, if he is on a decent contract and they are looking to make cuts then they could be looking at getting rid of him since he doesn't do much, they could get any decent highflyer to do this whole Suicide angle

Paul London and Elijah Burke are the guys that TNA reportedly want to free up space and cash for
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Fair enough they are good talents, but get rid of Nash, who can't wrestle anymore, Steiner, who is struggling to wrestle anymore, not Petey Williams who was one of the most talented on the roster.
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There are no decent ones out there though?

Cade and Murdoch? Laughing

As a Tag Team they are good although not great, I do think they are better as a team than as singles, I would have liked to see both of them go over to Japan and learn another style, it would have done both the world of good, then comeback as a Tag Team and let TNA and WWE fight over them again, I personally think Cade getting sacked might be the biggest break both he and Murdoch will catch, the trick now? making the tag team titles the be all and end all for tag wrestlers, guys like LOD and Demolition could sell out arenas in the 80s however they treated the tag belts as the best belts in the business, thats what made the teams and the tag division so successful
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Fair enough they are good talents, but get rid of Nash, who can't wrestle anymore, Steiner, who is struggling to wrestle anymore, not Petey Williams who was one of the most talented on the roster.

Apparently they think guys like Nash and Steiner give them name value which leads to ratings, which doesn't make sense to me, I like Nash though, must admit, think he still has a lot to offer although not as a wrestler, and Steiner I couldn't care less about, he is finished and just taking up a spot and cash
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I haven't watched Against All Odds yet, (watching tonight), but they have hardly used Nash at all. I know he's been in hospital and that but even since he's come back he's only ever been in the background.
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I know, but I think he is a great promo guy and one that could be used to good effect, not for what he does in the ring but for what he brings to the show, I'm no fan of all these golden oldies taking up space in TNA and pushing guys out like Petey, however Nash is one I do like

When the talk of him going back to WWE last year I was hoping that if he did go he would come in as the GM or RAW, I think he is a perfect GM type character, don't think the WWE had him earmarked for that role though since they wanted him to dye his hair
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two things

1:From reading a previous post of your gaffer about maybe an "invasion" Story with the Like Of Low Ki,Gail Kim etc Do you think Williams could possibly fit into that stable Either as the leader or Main back-up.

2.Would love Daniels in the WWE,Great Worker and good on the mic,And Could really give Taker A great feud if he stuck with the same gimmick
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tbh i dont think wwe will sign none of them i would sign petey if i was vince
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