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Sexton Hardcastle Heath Slater's Kid
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| Subject: 3 hour raw. Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:08 pm | |
| Now the last few 3 hour specials have ranged from brilliant to dire unwatchable television. but usually somthing BIG happens at the special raws. What I am worried about is that, as this is for the slammies, alot of air time will be people coming to the ring, promo videos, talking about slammies (which will in turn have no point after next week and the winners will be forgotten) thus making the show one of the supreme failings of wwe tv. there are some glimmers of hope, steph shane story. Jericho cena promos hopefully. edge is on the show lol. and maybe vince will re appear to slap shane and tell him to feck off cos daddys little girl is in charge. anyone looking forward to the show? im not but il watch in faith hopefully tomorrow i can praise the show and there will be somthing to get everyone talking about. heres to faith in wwe :/ | |
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the-gaffer Heath Slater's Kid
Location : Glasgow Number of posts : 12238 Favourite Wrestler : CM Punk
| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:26 pm | |
| It will be a promo fest, I think there will be a bit of interference in the matches as well
Can't see Triple H or Batista losing cleanly when there is nothing at stake | |
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Sexton Hardcastle Heath Slater's Kid
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| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:31 pm | |
| you think jeff will wind up in the cena edge match? quite a place to be seen 3 hour raw main event between both champions.
I hope cena and edge match is like their previous meetings, they were enthrawling to watch. | |
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the-gaffer Heath Slater's Kid
Location : Glasgow Number of posts : 12238 Favourite Wrestler : CM Punk
| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:43 pm | |
| Again thats another match that I don't want to see any interference in, but I doubt Cena would be asked to job on his own show, so maybe have Jericho come down and cost him the match to Edge, It would be good seeing Jericho and Edge potentially working together as well. | |
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Rocky2 Wrestling Legend
Location : In My House Number of posts : 4224 Favourite Wrestler : Shawn Michaels
| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:45 pm | |
| I hate it when WWE make those champion vs champion matches. Nothing good come of those matches, if someone loses cleanly, it makes that champion look weak and if there is interference, the match is made even more pointless than it already was. I can see a big advancement in the Shane vs Steph story tonight. I think Shane might reveal he is taking over the GM role on Smackdown after Armageddeon using the excuse that Vickie is abusing her position to help Edge. I hope to see a Smackdown vs ECW/RAW brawl to end the show tonight. Vince won't come back just yet, I don't think. He will either return at the Rumble or at Wrestlemania itself. I can definately see him appearing at Mania though whether that is just a one off appearance I don't know. I'm not hoping for much tonight, the matches already announced will probably be the only matches on the card if they have to fit in all the award giving inbetween. | |
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Discopants Most decorated Champion in history
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Location : Babylon Number of posts : 7492 Favourite Wrestler : Abdullah the Butcher
| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:50 pm | |
| I don't get these Slammy Awards.
How can you give awards out (kayfabe) without giving them all to the faces?
I don't see how it would make sense giving Jericho superstar of the year after punching HBK's wife and being a general cunt.
Doesn't seem to work IMO. | |
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the-gaffer Heath Slater's Kid
Location : Glasgow Number of posts : 12238 Favourite Wrestler : CM Punk
| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:51 pm | |
| I don't really mind who wins the Champion v Champion match, I just want someone to win and not a double DQ, then I would like that winner to claim to be the undisputed champion!
At least if Cena won and claimed he was the unofficial Undisputed champion, it could at least fit into Jericho who could claim to be the first OFFICIAL Undisputed Champion and claim Cena is not good enough to even attempt to say that, it could actually lead to a title v title match at the Rumble | |
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Sexton Hardcastle Heath Slater's Kid
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| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:51 pm | |
| nah theyl shove in some divas tag shit aswell lol.
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id love them to go back to brand wars, the game is always brand wars ffs lol makes us want big brand rivalries again.
(DL content of shane and steph GMs would be cool if it could work)
but having shane the face remove vicky, would get him the biggest pop imaginable these days. could be a good firey brand rivalry.
theyv never done it with shane and steph GM wars have they? | |
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the-gaffer Heath Slater's Kid
Location : Glasgow Number of posts : 12238 Favourite Wrestler : CM Punk
| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:54 pm | |
| - Discopants wrote:
- I don't get these Slammy Awards.
How can you give awards out (kayfabe) without giving them all to the faces?
I don't see how it would make sense giving Jericho superstar of the year after punching HBK's wife and being a general cunt.
Doesn't seem to work IMO. If you look at Chris Jericho though (in kayfabe) he doesn't seem to lie, and even in punching Michaels wife, he didn't do it deliberately, HBK brought her to a wrestling ring, he then got involved in an argument with Jericho and then ducked from an attacker to save himself, something HBK has got previous for back in 1992 when Jannetty ended up nailing Sherri Like you said, its in kayfabe, so it will be kayfabe honours, remember not everyone who will be on the panel deciding will be a face supporter | |
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Discopants Most decorated Champion in history
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| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:55 pm | |
| Do we know who the panel is? | |
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the-gaffer Heath Slater's Kid
Location : Glasgow Number of posts : 12238 Favourite Wrestler : CM Punk
| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:58 pm | |
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- nah theyl shove in some divas tag shit aswell lol.
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id love them to go back to brand wars, the game is always brand wars ffs lol makes us want big brand rivalries again.
(DL content of shane and steph GMs would be cool if it could work)
but having shane the face remove vicky, would get him the biggest pop imaginable these days. could be a good firey brand rivalry.
theyv never done it with shane and steph GM wars have they? I don't think its possible to have a real brand war to be honest with you! In order to do it and for it to work they would need to have the fans 100% committed to it. most of the kids and marks will cheer the faces, so even if they support RAW they will cheer for Triple H to beat Jericho and if they support SMACKDOWN they will then cheer for Cena to beat Edge I just don't think the writers could possibly do it, I don't think the fans could do it and I don't think the wrestlers could possibly do it. I just couldn't see guys like HBK and Rey seriously playing a heel role if they appeared on SD! I also don't think the powers that be would attempt to potentially kill a money maker like Cena or Punk by making them a heel on another brand! | |
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the-gaffer Heath Slater's Kid
Location : Glasgow Number of posts : 12238 Favourite Wrestler : CM Punk
| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:59 pm | |
| - Discopants wrote:
- Do we know who the panel is?
No, they won't have one, but I am going on Kayfabe thinking, so I believe they would have a panel to decide | |
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Discopants Most decorated Champion in history
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| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:01 pm | |
| Still think it's a bit lame having fake awards lol.
Still, could make for an interesting show. | |
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Rocky2 Wrestling Legend
Location : In My House Number of posts : 4224 Favourite Wrestler : Shawn Michaels
| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:10 pm | |
| I would laugh if WWE sent Charlie Haas to pick his award impersonating - Spoiler:
Al Snow
as a little piss take at TNA who hyped up the person appearing at Final Resolution as a "big star" only for it to be - Spoiler:
Al Snow
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C4lum 5 Time World Champion
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| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:02 am | |
| what time does it start? 1? ive got a live stream but its playin ECDUB atm | |
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the-gaffer Heath Slater's Kid
Location : Glasgow Number of posts : 12238 Favourite Wrestler : CM Punk
| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:10 pm | |
| - Discopants wrote:
- Still think it's a bit lame having fake awards lol.
Still, could make for an interesting show. It's definitely lame however is it really any lamer than calling a Pro Wrestler Heavyweight Champion of the World???????? Anyway, it done wonders for Owen Hart, it gives guys titles that help get them over as credible when some might not believe they are ready for the big time | |
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C4lum 5 Time World Champion
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| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:59 pm | |
| Thats the last time i stay up watching a live stream, the amount of adverts is ridiculos, much easier to watch next day online i think, or recorded if you have SS3 - Spoiler:
the amount of heat vickie got was unreal, best heel ever? seriously, for getting heat she is definitly up there! also i was glad to see Jericho win Superstar of the year, i thought they were gonna be giving the awards to the top faces like HHH or Cena, at least it had some realism
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feяgie22 Heath Slater's Kid
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| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:17 pm | |
| And why did Khali get a big long kiss off mickie? | |
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the-gaffer Heath Slater's Kid
Location : Glasgow Number of posts : 12238 Favourite Wrestler : CM Punk
| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:50 pm | |
| Because she is a whore Fergie | |
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feяgie22 Heath Slater's Kid
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| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:52 pm | |
| That'll do And did Cena no just dump her?, she's on the rebound dirty slag | |
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the-gaffer Heath Slater's Kid
Location : Glasgow Number of posts : 12238 Favourite Wrestler : CM Punk
| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:55 pm | |
| Jeezo, If Khali is correctly proportioned the poor nailbag would never be able to walk again! | |
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InvincibleIleak Second Divorce
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| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:29 pm | |
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Didn't think it was a particuarlly good Raw, I am glad Jericho won Superstar of the year, I was afraid they'd give it to Cena or Batista just for the sake of a face reaction. Mysterio still has an injured arm so I think it's stupid that he's already gone over the Miz and Kingston while injured.
No real story progession to be honest, apart from maybe Mike Knox taking Bourne's Slammy and JBL taking Micheals.
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the-gaffer Heath Slater's Kid
Location : Glasgow Number of posts : 12238 Favourite Wrestler : CM Punk
| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:39 pm | |
| 3 hour RAWs are very seldom any good and never really have any real story progression
They might have one big result but never really adding much to the fold! | |
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InvincibleIleak Second Divorce
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| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:48 pm | |
| I expected more than that was given, especially in the Shane/Steph storyline. | |
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Horizon World Champion Winner At WM
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| Subject: Re: 3 hour raw. Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:59 pm | |
| Well at least the 3rd Generation stable has a name now, meaning it is definitely definitely official | |
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