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| Subject: The Streak should never be broken. Tue May 17, 2011 9:42 am | |
| So, in an attempt to get some wrestling debate on the go...
One of the most popular debates in wrestling is the Undertaker's streak, and whether it should end, who should end it, and whether Taker should lose and then retire. Depending on the year, some names crop up as the guys who should end it - Orton, Miz, Cena ina heel turn, Triple H...
If it were up to me, he'd never lose it. To me, it's his legacy.
Any other all-time wrestling great has their legacy already - Shawn Michaels (greatest in-ring performer ever). Ric Flair (most world titles, best wrestler of the 80's). Steve Austin (redefined an company, most marketable wrestler ever). Hogan (made WWF mainstream, biggest star in the business until Austin). Rock (best promo man ever). Angle - Olympic Gold Medal.
Undertaker cannot lay claim to any of the above. Edge and Cena have won more world titles, he's not a more marketable star than Hogan, Rock or Austin, and he only started having classic matches in the later years of his career. Due to his character, most of his early career was spent rolling his eyes, chokeholds and following Paul Bearer around. Shawn Michaels was having awesome matches from the early 90's onwards.
The Streak has become the biggest Mania storyline, and with it, the biggest challenge WWE has. How can they book it so it looks like it's actually under threat (how many people when Triple H Tombstoned him this year that it was over?)? Who has been built as a justifiable opponent? Who's good enough to make sure the match itself rivals Taker vs HBK, Taker vs Edge, even Taker vs Batista?
it has to go one of two ways: either the opponent who can put on the best match, or the guy who can make it look like he could actually win. For the first, WWE only has 2 guys who could even hope to rival HBK, and they are CM Punk and Daniel Bryan - both buried in the midcard. The guys who could possibly win? Cena is about all that's left, and with him lined up to face the Rock, that match won't happen.
One of the most common arguments I hear is that taking the Streak would give someone's career a massive boost. Would it? If WWE is unwilling to give Wade Barrett / Sheamus / The Miz / CM Punk / Del Rio a clean PPV win over Orton or Cena, why would they then give the Steeak to one of the above? If they did, I get the feeling that any boost would be dumped on fairly quickly when they jobbed to Cena or Orton at the next PPV.
At this stage, the Streak should never end. Undertaker deserves a legacy, and the Streak is it. | |
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| Subject: Re: The Streak should never be broken. Tue May 17, 2011 12:12 pm | |
| The only time ive wanted it to end was against Orton as the Legend Killer, now i dont think anyone should end it, and there's only a couple of guys who could actually make it look like it could end, Cena/Jericho/Orton/Sheamus, no one else will make you think they'll break it. | |
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| Subject: Re: The Streak should never be broken. Tue May 17, 2011 12:14 pm | |
| I agree completely with you, I don't think there is any reason for the streak to end to be honest.
Cena is the only one who could realistically end the streak, and not only is he tied up with The Rock but it would do nothing for him. The only way it would work is if Cena turned heel and screwed Undertaker over the streak, the only problem being that with the way WWE switch people between face and heel so quickly these days, all that heat would be lost say a year or two down the line when Cena saves Rey Mysterio or whatever so it would be a huge waste.
IMO the Undertaker is the streak, that is how he should be remembered. | |
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| Subject: Re: The Streak should never be broken. Tue May 17, 2011 2:36 pm | |
| I agree it shouldn't end, Cena doesn't need the rub it'll give him and any other current 'young' stars don't seem to be believably booked to win! I think I'd like to see CM Punk vs Taker or Rhodes vs Taker and build it from SummerSlam onwards to Mania showing vignettes of Punk/Rhodes watching his tapes and trying to study him asking previous opponents how to beat Taker, any confrontations that happen before Mania would involve Taker trying to Chokeslam or punch them and them having it scouted and reversing into their finisher. This sort of build up gives it believability that Punk or Rhodes could win and even a program with Taker will elevate both their careers. | |
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| Subject: Re: The Streak should never be broken. Tue May 17, 2011 4:43 pm | |
| I would have loved to have seen Cena vs 'Taker this year at 'Mania for him to finish with 20-0 as it would make it at least believable that he the streak might end. I can see them repeating Triple H vs. Undertaker again though which would be a major dissapointment.
On the other note, has Taker ever faced Vince at 'Mania? I was going to say it would be somebody special to end on. Not that I would want to see it, but wouldn't be surprised if it would happen as I can't think of another big name to end it on. Kane maybe? | |
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| Subject: Re: The Streak should never be broken. Tue May 17, 2011 6:02 pm | |
| Kane's in the same situation as Cena and Orton, taking the Streak would do nothing for him. if he was 10-15 years younger, then possibly. At the stage he's at career-wise, it wouldn't make any sense for him to end it.
Taker faced Vince at the Survivor Series, at the end of his American Badass run. He lost a Buried Alive match after Kane interfered, and was then reborn as the Dead Man at Mania 20. I did think they were lining this one up for Mania 25 or 26, when Punk had the title, they did the fake Montreal screwjob ending at a PPV, and they kept going on about a 'Higher power' telling him and the ref to screw Taker.
I also think Triple H vs Undertaker again next year, with both retiring. Question is, would Trips be prepared to job to Taker a third time at Mania? | |
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| Subject: Re: The Streak should never be broken. Tue May 17, 2011 7:19 pm | |
| When I say end on, I just meant to bring it to 20-0 rather than to actually beat 'Taker.
Most likely it will be Haitch again, which would be dissapointing. Vince is my dark horse for his final oppenent though. | |
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| Subject: Re: The Streak should never be broken. Wed May 18, 2011 5:30 pm | |
| I don't think the streak should be broken. I also think in the streak he hasn't always wrestled the top guys. He hasn't fought the likes of Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Stone Cold, The Rock or John Cena.
I wonder if we would still be talking about a streak if he wrestled Hulk Hogan at WM 7 or WM 8 instead on Jimmy Snuka and Jake Roberts.
At Wrestlemania 13, Stone Cold v Bret Hart was the main attraction for that PPV. Undertaker was left with Sid for the title.
Wrestlemania 18, The NWO were in town - trying to rid of "The Cancer" from the wwe. Why wasn't Undertaker involved with them? OK, he was busy with Ric Flair and there was the 'Icon v Icon' match but surley even Scott Hall who was involved could of wrestled Taker.
Randy Ortan is believed to had the chance to end the streak but didnt ot of respect for the Undertaker.
Now there is only really John Cena who is big enough at this moment in time to take on Undertaker. | |
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| Subject: Re: The Streak should never be broken. Sat May 21, 2011 11:16 am | |
| he will retire 20-0 it will be something to swell some dvd's down the road | |
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